Cork U21 Hurling 2018

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Dorcha
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby Dorcha » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:53 pm

Just back from that hell-hole. This was the most gut-wrenching experience for a long time. They didn't play well at all, but still came back from a seven point deficit to lead by two at the interval. After Tipp's second goal with only minutes remaining, they were four points down but fought back too lead by one, only to concede that last sickener of a goal. They were well horsed out of it phycscally by Tipp all through the game. They weren't prepared to die for it and Tipp were. That was the major difference.
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby Dorcha » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:59 pm

We had tickets for the Mackey Stand, but were told it was full when we got there. We were herded into the uncovered stand instead. Both terraces closed. We were a little late because of traffic and could find no program sellers when we got in. If this is the way they treat their patrons, I would be against Limerick being given any other big matches.
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby tipp-ex » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:29 pm

Was Darragh Fitz, him of the lung bursting, crowd lifting runs forward played as a sweeper in the first half?
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby Dorcha » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:24 pm

Possibly playing deeper because that's where most of the ball was. Because the Cork forwards couldn't win much possession - and then only miles out from the goals - he had to help out the back line.
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby jbm1 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:42 am

Cork Hurling is dead and gone, it's with O'Leary in the grave
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby redinsf » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:35 am

Lots of dramatic reaction here. Hugely disappointing yes but we were absolutely primed for an ambush.
The first leveller compared to the Páirc Ui Chaoimh game was the weather, a dogfight was virtually guaranteed and Tipp outmuscled Cork in several battles around the field. We were hugely flat at the start of each half and, overall, probably played 2nd fiddle for at least 3/4 of the game. Tipp had absolutely nothing to lose coming in, outside of their team and management I would imagine nobody in their own County expected them to come within 5 points of Cork (I know to my personal cost that Paddy Power didn't anyway!). It really was an ideal situation for Tipp and they exploited the advantage to the full.
Most of our Senior team players were disappointing but these lads are 20/21 years old and have brought us great joy and, for the first time in many years, hope, in the past 2 summers. It's a pity that they had a collective off day but I'm convinced thet they are made of the right stuff.
13 years without an All-Ireland in Senior/Minor/U21 is an eternity for a County with our proud hurling tradition, and we have never been closer to one during this famine than yesterday evening, apart from the draw in 2013, so it is a massive disappointment but Cork hurling is very much in the ascendancy and I have a feeling that when we finally end the drought, that we will win a cluster of them
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby Dorcha » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:31 am

We have very, very good players, yes, and lots of them. The downside is we appear to have very, very bad managers.

People talk a lot of rubbish about how it is up to the players when they are on the pitch and the manager is on the sideline. Yet it is the manager who decides who will play and in what position and how they will play the game. Yet it is the players who get the flack when they implement a poor game plan and it doesn't work.
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby Dorcha » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:41 pm

Quote from a Tipperary poster on Premier View in response to an irritated Cork poster: "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard. Cork might want to remember that going forward."
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby Sinbin » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:14 pm

Well that was frustrating, being polite. An awful game to lose and an awful way to lose it.

Most of the posts here already have nailed the main factors in this loss...Tipp horsed us out of in most areas, Cork trying to play too much fancy stuff in tricky conditions, poor decision making on the ball and in shot-selection, established players not dominating as we would have expected. We hurled for about 15 mins before half time...and that was it...the rest of that performance was disjointed & scrappy, relying on individual scores to keep us in the game as opposed to taking the game to Tipp. And we still could have won it. Don't want to comment on individuals but it was a bad day at the office on both sides of the line.

Our hurling year has ended in massive disappointment when 6 weeks ago it looked very promising. Not rocket science to say that the mental capacity to get the job done in whatever circumstances is the single biggest malaise in Cork hurling at present. And probably the most difficult to correct. A win yesterday would have gone somewhere towards banishing it.

When we look back at this hurling year it will be one of missed opportunities.We had one foot in the senior AI Final with six minutes to go v Limerick and couldn't close it out. Yesterday we had one hand on the cup 2 mins into stoppage time and couldn't close it out. This trend is not coincidental and its killing us.

I have no doubt that this U21 team is better than Tipp and probably the best in the country. Our seniors are right up there with Limerick, Galway, and the rest. But until we develop a ruthless streak and mental edge to win the big games that really matter we will continue to be seen as a soft touch.

We are close, very close,...but as far away as ever.
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Re: Cork U21 Hurling 2018

Postby Sinbin » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:18 pm

An aside...the one positive to come out of yesterday was seeing Brian Turnbull back on the hurling pitch.

He is a player with serious potential and presumably will be brought into the senior panel. Hope his injuries are fully behind him as he is a player we would be hoping can have a big impact in the years ahead.

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